This is from a blog on a Chicago paper I was reading through, it irked me. the site he shows completely bases itself off of ANCIENT datum collect by ABEL and Harlow in 2001. It it the report basically says that just like in the old days with mental patients, Sex Offenders should be lobotomized..
"Got to tell you, the numbers for repeat sexual offenders is all over the place, although for child molestation as I understand it, there is no counsling or treatment that works. I’ve seen programs where the talk to convicted child molesters that they CANNOT CONTROL THEIR IMPULSES. Now whether this is true or not you know some of them including rapist and other sorts of sexual offenders are going to do it again. Some of them we will never know about. I don’t want to include the 21 year old in love and vice versa the 17 year old with all of this.
As for the teacher regardless of thier age it is wrong.That teacher is in a position of a educator, not a fornicator. They are just as bad. For all of you people who say this law is bad, why not let them live next to you or better yet in your home. (I pray that there are no childred in your home).
I DO NOT WANT THESE ANIMALS NEAR MY CHILDRENS SCHOOLS OR ANY OTHER SCHOOLS!!!!! Now it may be true that they just find another way, at least this is a step in the right direction. Life in prison or execution for two time offenses should be in order. Please look at this web site it is chilling.http://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pages/tell_others_the_facts.html
Comment from maerd
March 21, 2008, 10:54 am"
"Got to tell you, the numbers for repeat sexual offenders is all over the place, although for child molestation as I understand it, there is no counsling or treatment that works."
Care to name the "all over the place" sources you have? You are spreading lies and fear-mongering. I call you out on this MAERD!!, the re-offense rates for sexual offenders across the board are between 3.5 and 5% depending on studies put out by the Department of Justice.
Most sexual offenders DO have only one 'victim' and now with the inclusion of public nudity, peeing in public, teen sex, and teen picture swaps into the mix of reportable 'crimes' to be included in the registry the average of victims per offender will go FAR lower than 1.. sheesh, you people do not read accredited sources at all do you? Sex Offenders are the 2nd LEAST likely person's to re-offend. Murderer's are the lowest re-offenders out there, and well it is easy to see why in Texas.
FamilyWatchdog is a hate site against sexual offenders rating ALL sexual offenders as predators. ( Predators are the smallest grouping of sexual offenders, they are considered in the 3.5% that re-offend.) Which is in no way true and again is HATE AND FEAR MONGERING. Is the kid AND his girlfriend that were 14 and 13 BOTH predators? That is NOT a fallacy folks. under Adam Walsh's ACT, a 14 y/o boy and his 13 y/o girlfriend are both now happily on the sex offender registry FOR LIFE because they exchanged nude pictures with one another on their cell phones and got popped for child porn. There are MANY other cases between middle aged teens that are now part of the registry due to the WALSH ACT for LIFE!
Example of persons that are on the registry that will never be a threat with your child. Girls and guys arrested for peeing in public. Consenting adults that are caught with the blinds cracked during sex(sex in public), 19 y/o person in a consenting relation with their 17 or 16 y/o boyfriend or girlfriend, sex offenders who offend against adults.
As a question, can anyone really tell me what a pedophile is? can you?.. for all those thinking that the 30 year old guy having sexual thoughts, actual contact with your 14 to 17 year old is a pedophile, then sorry not only are you wrong you are stupid. a Pedophile is an adult that has thoughts, or commits actions against PRE-pubescent children. adults that have sexual thoughts of POST-pubescent are NORMAL. the illegal part of their actions is the touching of the Teen person. Currently today, we have some CHILDREN as young as 14 being labeled violent sexual offenders and pedophiles due to their consentual relations with SAME AGED boyfriend or girlfriend.
Myths about sex offenders
-- MYTH They are all non-cureable
--FACT With the proper treatment, sex offenders have a 96% chance of going on to become normal, mentally healthy people again, with offenders that did a non-violent crime against POST-pubescent teens being the most cureable.
-- MYTH Most Sex Offenders lurk in the shadows and grab up unsuspecting children when you are not around
-- FACT 90% of All sexual offenders come from INSIDE the home or are people who are related or are known to the victim.
--MYTH The typical Sexual Offender is a 40 year old loser living in his mothers basement, searching for victims on the web and trading child porn with other offenders
-- FACT 90% of sexual offenders are in the home or are family or friends. That means Dad, or Uncle BOB, or the nice man at the crosswalk, or their Cousin Sue.. The smoke and mirrors want you to believe the myth.
--FACT NO SEXUAL OFFENDER LAWS CAN PROTECT A CHILD LIVING WITH THE OFFENDER. Megan's Law, Jacob Wetterlings Law, Adam Walsh ACT have not and will not protect 90% of the future victims out there, because they only apply to 'STRANGER DANGER'. Stranger Danger is a myth as well, as only 10% of all sexual crimes are caused by people not known to the victims.
Sexual treatment DOES work, and unless you are a board certified therapist please don't open your unknowing mouths on this because you have no idea what you are talking about. Until you have been through treatment, and have witnessed the real change in the people there, then you are totally clueless and without merit in any "therapy doesn't work " garbage that you are spewing
Statistics released by the Department of Justice state the re-offense rates for all sexual offenders is between 3.5 and 5% total, with most reoffense occurring in the first 3 years of release from supervision. This rapidly declines thereafter until it is nominal at around year 7 out of supervision.
The Average reoffense rate for non-sexual crimes is 61% (burglery, car-jacking, shootings, domestic violence, violence against children, animal cruelty, etc).
Sex offenders are 4 times more likely to recommit a sexual offense than other non-sexual offenders. DUH! like that is a surprise guys, A Robber has the pre-disposition to ROB, not to sexually offend.
However, overall, a sexual offender is LESS likely to reoffend than all other non-sexual offenders (besides murderers) Only 4% of Sexual offenders that receive and complete treatment are likely to re-offend INSIDE of the already low 3.5 to 5% re-offense rate for sexual offenders total.
Stop believing the garbage hype that a few people are throwing out as fact. I am truly sorry for Adam Walsh and the things that happened to him, however it has NEVER BEEN PROVEN that a sex offender abducted ADAM. They have no idea who actually grabbed Adam that day in Sears, although they believe it could be a guy named O'Toole or Jeff Dahmer(which I find hard to believe as Dahmers MO was for teen boys).
The Adam Walsh Act is knee jerk legislation passed to make you FEEL safe, but does nothing to actually help you STAY SAFE. that is the job of the individual.
Currently there is great progress being made to lower the levels of re-offense even lower and hopefully it will go below the murder rate soon. Sexual offenses have been on the decline since 1996, and decreasing even fast since the year 2000. Treatment is a viable option for Sex Offenders, however the continued erosion of OUR rights is causing the truly worst of the worst to flee underground and to drop 'off the radar'. Do you feel safer NOW? By putting the Registries online, Law Enforcement is saying we cannot handle this work load, so here are the people to watch out for. If they cannot handle a web site full of people how will they ever keep the ones that drop off the scope in line? The restrictions are also causing issues where people become unsettled, and unstable in their environment.
It is proven that sex offenders that are in a home environment, with job stability, that they perform better and have an increased chance to never re-offend again.
So please READ real studies, not the bias of the people spewing hatred.
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2007/09/06/usdom16819.htm
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/rsorp94.htm
"Got to tell you, the numbers for repeat sexual offenders is all over the place, although for child molestation as I understand it, there is no counsling or treatment that works. I’ve seen programs where the talk to convicted child molesters that they CANNOT CONTROL THEIR IMPULSES. Now whether this is true or not you know some of them including rapist and other sorts of sexual offenders are going to do it again. Some of them we will never know about. I don’t want to include the 21 year old in love and vice versa the 17 year old with all of this.
As for the teacher regardless of thier age it is wrong.That teacher is in a position of a educator, not a fornicator. They are just as bad. For all of you people who say this law is bad, why not let them live next to you or better yet in your home. (I pray that there are no childred in your home).
I DO NOT WANT THESE ANIMALS NEAR MY CHILDRENS SCHOOLS OR ANY OTHER SCHOOLS!!!!! Now it may be true that they just find another way, at least this is a step in the right direction. Life in prison or execution for two time offenses should be in order. Please look at this web site it is chilling.http://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pages/tell_others_the_facts.html
Comment from maerd
March 21, 2008, 10:54 am"
"Got to tell you, the numbers for repeat sexual offenders is all over the place, although for child molestation as I understand it, there is no counsling or treatment that works."
Care to name the "all over the place" sources you have? You are spreading lies and fear-mongering. I call you out on this MAERD!!, the re-offense rates for sexual offenders across the board are between 3.5 and 5% depending on studies put out by the Department of Justice.
Most sexual offenders DO have only one 'victim' and now with the inclusion of public nudity, peeing in public, teen sex, and teen picture swaps into the mix of reportable 'crimes' to be included in the registry the average of victims per offender will go FAR lower than 1.. sheesh, you people do not read accredited sources at all do you? Sex Offenders are the 2nd LEAST likely person's to re-offend. Murderer's are the lowest re-offenders out there, and well it is easy to see why in Texas.
FamilyWatchdog is a hate site against sexual offenders rating ALL sexual offenders as predators. ( Predators are the smallest grouping of sexual offenders, they are considered in the 3.5% that re-offend.) Which is in no way true and again is HATE AND FEAR MONGERING. Is the kid AND his girlfriend that were 14 and 13 BOTH predators? That is NOT a fallacy folks. under Adam Walsh's ACT, a 14 y/o boy and his 13 y/o girlfriend are both now happily on the sex offender registry FOR LIFE because they exchanged nude pictures with one another on their cell phones and got popped for child porn. There are MANY other cases between middle aged teens that are now part of the registry due to the WALSH ACT for LIFE!
Example of persons that are on the registry that will never be a threat with your child. Girls and guys arrested for peeing in public. Consenting adults that are caught with the blinds cracked during sex(sex in public), 19 y/o person in a consenting relation with their 17 or 16 y/o boyfriend or girlfriend, sex offenders who offend against adults.
As a question, can anyone really tell me what a pedophile is? can you?.. for all those thinking that the 30 year old guy having sexual thoughts, actual contact with your 14 to 17 year old is a pedophile, then sorry not only are you wrong you are stupid. a Pedophile is an adult that has thoughts, or commits actions against PRE-pubescent children. adults that have sexual thoughts of POST-pubescent are NORMAL. the illegal part of their actions is the touching of the Teen person. Currently today, we have some CHILDREN as young as 14 being labeled violent sexual offenders and pedophiles due to their consentual relations with SAME AGED boyfriend or girlfriend.
Myths about sex offenders
-- MYTH They are all non-cureable
--FACT With the proper treatment, sex offenders have a 96% chance of going on to become normal, mentally healthy people again, with offenders that did a non-violent crime against POST-pubescent teens being the most cureable.
-- MYTH Most Sex Offenders lurk in the shadows and grab up unsuspecting children when you are not around
-- FACT 90% of All sexual offenders come from INSIDE the home or are people who are related or are known to the victim.
--MYTH The typical Sexual Offender is a 40 year old loser living in his mothers basement, searching for victims on the web and trading child porn with other offenders
-- FACT 90% of sexual offenders are in the home or are family or friends. That means Dad, or Uncle BOB, or the nice man at the crosswalk, or their Cousin Sue.. The smoke and mirrors want you to believe the myth.
--FACT NO SEXUAL OFFENDER LAWS CAN PROTECT A CHILD LIVING WITH THE OFFENDER. Megan's Law, Jacob Wetterlings Law, Adam Walsh ACT have not and will not protect 90% of the future victims out there, because they only apply to 'STRANGER DANGER'. Stranger Danger is a myth as well, as only 10% of all sexual crimes are caused by people not known to the victims.
Sexual treatment DOES work, and unless you are a board certified therapist please don't open your unknowing mouths on this because you have no idea what you are talking about. Until you have been through treatment, and have witnessed the real change in the people there, then you are totally clueless and without merit in any "therapy doesn't work " garbage that you are spewing
Statistics released by the Department of Justice state the re-offense rates for all sexual offenders is between 3.5 and 5% total, with most reoffense occurring in the first 3 years of release from supervision. This rapidly declines thereafter until it is nominal at around year 7 out of supervision.
The Average reoffense rate for non-sexual crimes is 61% (burglery, car-jacking, shootings, domestic violence, violence against children, animal cruelty, etc).
Sex offenders are 4 times more likely to recommit a sexual offense than other non-sexual offenders. DUH! like that is a surprise guys, A Robber has the pre-disposition to ROB, not to sexually offend.
However, overall, a sexual offender is LESS likely to reoffend than all other non-sexual offenders (besides murderers) Only 4% of Sexual offenders that receive and complete treatment are likely to re-offend INSIDE of the already low 3.5 to 5% re-offense rate for sexual offenders total.
Stop believing the garbage hype that a few people are throwing out as fact. I am truly sorry for Adam Walsh and the things that happened to him, however it has NEVER BEEN PROVEN that a sex offender abducted ADAM. They have no idea who actually grabbed Adam that day in Sears, although they believe it could be a guy named O'Toole or Jeff Dahmer(which I find hard to believe as Dahmers MO was for teen boys).
The Adam Walsh Act is knee jerk legislation passed to make you FEEL safe, but does nothing to actually help you STAY SAFE. that is the job of the individual.
Currently there is great progress being made to lower the levels of re-offense even lower and hopefully it will go below the murder rate soon. Sexual offenses have been on the decline since 1996, and decreasing even fast since the year 2000. Treatment is a viable option for Sex Offenders, however the continued erosion of OUR rights is causing the truly worst of the worst to flee underground and to drop 'off the radar'. Do you feel safer NOW? By putting the Registries online, Law Enforcement is saying we cannot handle this work load, so here are the people to watch out for. If they cannot handle a web site full of people how will they ever keep the ones that drop off the scope in line? The restrictions are also causing issues where people become unsettled, and unstable in their environment.
It is proven that sex offenders that are in a home environment, with job stability, that they perform better and have an increased chance to never re-offend again.
So please READ real studies, not the bias of the people spewing hatred.
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2007/09/06/usdom16819.htm
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/rsorp94.htm
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